This week former British diplomat and negotiator Alistair Crooke joins me to discuss what Russia’s real goals are in Ukraine and giving us a unique insight into the mind of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Russian people.
Alistair’s been on the podcast before : Episodes #19 and #69
Show Notes:
Crooke – This Is What Liberal War Fever Looks Like
Luongo – Thanks to Putin’s War in Ukraine the Race is on for the Great Reset
Previous Episodes:
Podcast Episode #99 — Dexter White and Putin’s Mumu of No Return
Podcast Episode #98 — Dexter White and the Fog of Truth Around Ukraine
Podcast Episode #97 — Ron Unz and the Publisher’s Minefield
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So basically, Putin’s mindset is “Make Russia Great Again”.
Why not! Only the west is entitled?
@Anonymous — if the political class wasn’t such a bunch of corrupt losers, Trump wouldn’t have defeated that b!tch in 2016.
Trump won … or more precisely the political class lost.
With the media and Hollywood going full court press in 2020, not to mention some shady voting “laws”…. a dementia patient who hid in his basement the whole time won by the skin of his teeth. It should be noted that the dementia patient defeated 30 some odd other losers in the democrat primary, because they were such nasty human beings that a dementia patient seemed less awful.
Not exactly a great showing for the corrupt political class.
Stop whining about Trump. He is a symptom of the disease, not the cause. Washington DC is the disease.
And yeah, Washington DC is the reason the Russians felt threatened. Washington DC is the reason the Ukranians got falsely excited about joining NATO. Washington DC is the reason so many people in Ukraine are dying.
No one expected Russia or Ukraine to be the super power. Everyone thought the US had better leadership.
NOPE… we have a dementia patient instead
Please stop trying to re-litigate the 2016 election. Its over. Trump won. The political class lost. And considering the loser they shoved in 2020, they lost twice in a row.
Not an endorsement of Trump.
This is a condemnation of the stupidity and corruption that is Washington DC
Biden did not win by the skin of his teeth. He lost BIG.
One of the best podcasts on this issue so far. Really appreciate someone that can share the Russian mindset on this. Gets tiresome hearing so many claiming Putin is a globalist and has the same goals as the WEF. Also Alistair’s comment about China — “They aren’t globalists, they’re traders”. Nice to get this perspective.
I really love talking to him. He’s a treasure trove
Alistair truly is a treasure! Couldn’t question a single word of his wisdom. By the way, it’s very possible i met him back in the 1990’s, in that we were both working in Islamabad at the same time, with me spending a lot of time with the UK (and US) embassy folks (not that he would have been introduced to me in his true capacity).
Terrific, doesn’t get any better than that. Many thanks.
That was fantastic. Many thanks.
I might argue that Russia’s greatest cultural contribution (to the rest of the world) was music and/or ballet …….or even science (first man in space)……..but such a comment would be insignificant compared to the extraordinary and exceptional summary Alistair provides here. Thank-you
Excellent, so glad I found you via The Duran.
Of course the elephant in the room is the possibility of The West’s homicide/suicide via Magic Juice. Hope you can find some time to speculate on said elephant: don’t know how a civilization/polity/culture can survive democide of such magnitude.
Tom,
I believe that you and Alistair are only two of a handful of people who understand what the word EXISTENTIAL really means. To the rest in the woke Anglosphere it seems to be just a fancy essay word.
I think you are on to something about Ukraine just being “Phase One” in a multiphase movement. And as we all have our eyes transfixed on Zelensky, the Russians (and I suspect China also) are trying to figure out want they want from the West in exchange for what they have to give. Any old school student of history can tell you that, from the 16th Century to the 19th Century, the only thing that China wanted from the West was silver, until silver became too hard to obtain … and that is where opium came in. So, returning foreign trade to a “specific set of commodities” would follow past Chinese precedent.
Assuming the “dictionary people” haven’t yet changed the meaning of the word existential, I just want to draw you and your reader’s attention to this old John Mearsheimer video that only has ~3000 views:
Dialogue between American scholar John Mearsheimer and Chinese scholar Wang Yiwei
https://youtu.be/tY-7ZXerra0
And if you take a look at Li Keqiang’s Wikipedia page, this paragraph ought to speak volumes: “United States lieutenant general H. R. McMaster wrote of Li Keqiang that, ‘If anyone in the American group had any doubts about China’s view of its relationship with the United States, Li’s monologue would have removed them. He began with the observation that China, having already developed its industrial and technological base, no longer needed the United States.’ ”
***Li Keqiang is the Premier of China, which is the highest rank in the civil service of the central government.
And if you have been following what the actual Chinese officials have been saying (the Epoch Times lens is valuable, but has an agenda that often drowns out what they actually say. Taiwan isn’t the objective, the US dollar is. IMHO) over the years, you can find MANY statements like the two above… not unlike what Putin has been telling us over the past decade… that our press dismisses as the “rantings of a mad man”.
So, it appears that the US DOLLAR has worn out it’s welcome in much of the world, thanks to our corrupt and incompetent governing class. And the ultimate comeuppance will be when the Walmart in downtown Detroit will only accept bills with a portrait of Mao Zedong on them.
This is great example of an interview that is invaluable; provides perspective from a deep well of experience and wisdom which is TOTALLY lacking in traditional media. And you let him talk, while also connecting to the themes you have been developing. Thanks. Well done Tom!
It’s taken me a long time to get even competent at this. My natural anxiety always got in the way in the past.
It’s a hard won skill
This may be taboo information but here goes as you can’t fight an enemy if you can’t identify him.. Mr. Crooke spoke of seeing a repeat of Bolshevism, which I totally agree with. What is not spoke of is the historical fact that Bolshevism was effectively a Jewish movement. and with a little study I believe it becomes clear that this is what we are experiencing today.
Biden’s nearly entire administration as was Obama’s, Clintons and many of Trumps is Jewish . as is Banking, the Fed, the media, academia, Facebook, Instagram, Google, the Neocons, Wikipedia, big business, big finance, big pharma, Hollywood, and on and on. A little time spent on an alternative search engine such as yandex.com or duckduckgo.com ,which is actually run by a Jew but has overall been rather neutral. I would never include all Jews in this group but nevertheless to many of them.
A list of interest would include.
Ron Unzs American Pravda series is a treasure trove of the treachery these people are capable of. Mr. Unz is Jewish
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/
The USS Liberty attack by Israel, an incredible documentation of what these people are capable of and the incredible amount of control they have over America and this was back in 1967.
. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM&t=201s
There was also a very similar documentary done by the BBC which unsurprisingly was taken down. and I am surprised this one hasn’t been.
This is a link to a monumental documentary that corresponds to my years of study of the topic
called “Europa the Last Battle”. From what I can see it is certainly not only Russia that is in an existential fight for survival but the entire west and probably more and this video will greatly help to see the big picture and make some sense of our currently insane world.
https://rumble.com/vupbeq-europa-the-last-battle-full.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2.
A good site for videos on the topic.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/sxqLgNU13em9/
In 2001, the CIA had only 1 Arabic speaker. The fusion of US and Israeli modi operandi has been ongoing for many a long year.
Tim:
I am not trying to be pro or con here with the issue. Just to point out that when a nation feels that it is confronted with an existential threat (JCPOA/USS Liberty) it will cross the Rubicon…as we are currently seeing with Putin and Ukraine.
One of the BIG UNANSWERED QUESTIONS still hanging out there is who hacked the DNC server and the John Podesta’s emails? If it was not the Russians and S.R. didn’t do both.
And then there was this monumental event, a few weeks after the 2016 election:
Obama Just Took a Parting Shot at Israel
“It was the first time in nearly 40 years that the Security Council has passed a resolution critical of Israeli settlements. By abstaining — instead of vetoing the resolution, as the United States has reliably done to similar measures for decades — the Obama administration allowed the highly symbolic measure to make it through the chamber.”
The hacks were attributed to the GRU groups “fancy bear” & “cozy bear” based on the time stamps.
Amazing how our intelligence community couldn’t read a meridional map to see what other country is in that same time zone?
But some stones are best left undisturbed.
However, if I were a historian living in 2056, with the government records open to my inspection, I would take a shot at solving this puzzle using “cui bono” as my starting maxim.
And even if your preferred candidate was not elected, a greatly weakened and scandalized Clinton administration would be a good consolation prize.
That is indeed true about Bolshevism, and that is why the Russians owed the world the Ukraine invasion after they destroyed the world’s last attempt to stop the Jews to the benefit of the current American empire.
“Le great patriotic war” is a myth and the Russians will have to get over their unfounded hatred of Western European Fascists if they don’t want to spend the foreseeable future as China’s bitch.
Scott Horton interviewed 2 survivors of the USS Liberty attack, published just a few days ago.
The “Jews” are a pretty badly beaten dead horse.
Just watched episode 3 of “The Last Battle”, per your recommendation. Revisionist history.
https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/europa-the-last-battle-part-3-10_bnolkuwVReLWcc5.html
“This may be taboo information but here goes as you can’t fight an enemy if you can’t identify him.. Mr. Crooke spoke of seeing a repeat of Bolshevism, which I totally agree with. What is not spoke of is the historical fact that Bolshevism was effectively a Jewish movement”.
It seems to me that Bolshevism was effectively a Wall Street sponsored operation (as was Hitler’s National Socialists); and Wall Street is effectively an operational ‘arm’ of the Fabian Socialists/Round Table who are still in power today controlling just about everything via their various organizations (i.e. Council on Foreign Relations/Royal Inst. of Int’l. Affairs, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and recently the World Economic Forum).
In this sense the international cabal is hardly a “Jewish” movement.
Dexter White ought to listen to this pod…
I believe Mr Crooke is extremely accurate in his whole view of what is going on. Same for you Tom. Total pleasure listening too this Podcast. Mr Crooke is very astute and so experienced in this game of chess. Why can’t some of these DC morons hear him.
Yes, I think Putin is smart enough to help us to shoot ourselves in the economic foot. But your discussion about that not being his real mission is reading the tea leaves in the fine print. And no, killing trade is not really what China would want to do. They are traders as Mr Crooke says. I usually say really good business people.
Fantastic Tom! Maybe your best show yet!
I’ve become very used to listening to intelligent and sober voices. You, Tim Kelly, Cathrine Austin Fitts, Hrvoje Morić, Jay Dyer, Patrick Henningson, Michel Chossudovsky, etc, etc. It’s quite a strange parallel world.
I don’t consume any mainstream press and haven’t for many years. The drones tell me everything I need to know about what they’re being sold at any given moment. It’s a sad thing to see our culture and western civilization going down the drain when we obviously have the talent to rescue ourselves. If only you and the likes of the aforementioned names were governing instead of podcasting. I guess that’s my question:
How do we get the political class in the west to look like my podcast feed?
I have discovered Alistair Crooke about two years ago and usually never miss any of his articles at Strategic Culture Foundation. Great geo-political views and lots of common sense. Always makes me learn something new and makes me think. I downsized my favorite authors for the last few years to: Alistair Crooke, Tom Luango, Andrew Korybko, Alexander Dugin, M. K. Bhadrakumar, Agha Hussein (Cradle), Matthew Ehret, W.Engdahl, Tim Kirby, Joachim Flores and a few more. Over many years I have found out these authors to be most serious, consistent, deep and rational thinkers.
If someday your surviving children ask you, what did you do to try to prevent World War 3, what will you tell them? https://bruceohara.substack.com/p/a-bifurcated-world
Bronze age pervert nails the russia thing correctly. A bosnia type situation lingers for europe itself with modern dumbass wokery currently running things. Vladimir Putin may even find himself in the position of charles martel at some point, who knows. I think Europe wants it’s culture back at some point, and for the LGBTQ-NATO people to simply get off their lawn.https://theamericansun.com/2022/03/14/bap-covers-ukraine-the-european-right-freedom/
Wonderful very important talk. Thank you, Tom. It just goes to illustrate the horrible yawning gap between a truthful morally-based former British spook like AC who both knows his subject and speaks from human understanding and the long line of lying devious spooks who do nothing but sow division and war amongst the peoples of the world for the benefit of select bloodlines and corporations whom they narrowly define as ‘British interests’. Thank you Alasdair. You help restore my faith in certain sections of the British people. Sadly, they have little or no influence over policy or action.
Wonderful interview, thanks so much for this, Tom!
One dingbat in Congress is calling for Putin to be assassinated.
The dementia patient in the White House is now calling Putin a war criminal.
This is the behavior of people on the Jerry Springer show, peacocking for the cameras. These are the actions of people desperate for attention.
These are not the actions of global statesman, much less a world power.
Even if one believes Putin is the “next Hitler”, a statesman hoping to limit carnage on the ground wouldn’t say so publicly. Sensationalism plays to the cameras and sometimes to TV ratings, but it doesn’t help solve the problem or stop the war.
Besides, the title “next Hitler” is already long held by the leadership of North Korea, China, Phillipines, Iran, Iraq, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Bolivia, Cuba, Venezeula… just to name a few. After a political group uses that label a hundred times, its like crying wolf.
Biden might as well be telling the world the USA isn’t the super-power it was a couple decades ago. He certainly isn’t acting like the President of a super power.
If UN reports are to be believed (they are essentially written by Putin haters) then Putin has killed 637 civilians.
We don’t know how many people were “droned” or otherwise murdered by Obama and Biden, given that they used drone strikes in a half dozen countries and concealed the results. In aggregate, its higher than Putin’s record.
Barack Obama killed about 100 people in one failed drone strike on a Yemeni wedding party. Supposedly the intelligence said there was one cell phone at the wedding that belonged to a terrorist. The terrorist in question was nowhere near the wedding where Obama murdered a 100 people — the terrorist was piggy backing on a regular wedding attendees SIM card.
Anyway, Obama killed 100 people in that incident alone. Countless more in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
How many thousands did Obama kill in Libya?
Osama Bin Laden killed about 3000.
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Anthony Fauci killed over two million people, according to official records.
Fauci is one of the worst war criminals of all time. He rivals Hitler in number of deaths caused. Fauci totured puppies as part of “experiments” into sand flies biting.
Fauci is a war criminal. Lets see if that turd in the White House arrests Fauci (cough)
Like you, I didn’ believe Russia would actually attack. I thought they were enjoying the hysterics inside DC power circles. Now that we’ve been proven wrong, it does seem like a waiting game/Mexican standoff. The lack of news aside from obviously phony atrocity stories might indicate that nothing is going on beyond diplomatic wrangling. My inner conspiracy theorist suggests it was all a show to ruin Ukraine’s military so that US, UK and German firms would make a pile of money re stocking them to NATO standard. Meanwhile, the Davos Control Clique is madly scrambling to bring the Arab kingdom back into the fold to save The City’s iron grip on world finance and energy flows.
Tom,
I very much enjoyed this podcast where once again I learned things I had long suspected, such as the fact that a Stinger is a pretty useless weapon – and thus that all the stories were Hollywood and The New York Times providing advertising so that General Dynamics and Raytheon could milk the Defense budget.
However, I think you are wrong about the Davos crowd, they are simply the Lee Harvey Oswalds set up to take the fall, as are the neocons.
Jews in Philadelphia actually had to form their own dining club The Locust Club as they could not be members of WASP clubs so I seriously doubt the neocons are running anything other than a side operation for Israel’s benefit.
To understand who is really in charge take a look at these two links:
https://whowhatwhy.org/author/david-talbot/
https://aneritamtm.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/profits-uber-alles-american-corporations-and-hitler/
The first link is to some excerpts from David Talbot’s biography of Allen Dulles “The Devil’s Chessboard” which discusses Dulles’ role in the assassination of JFK and the attempted coup d’état against Charles de Gaulle (without doubt he also had a role in the assassination attempt on de Gaulle in Petit-Clamart). Mr. Talbot succeeds in putting together a web involving the Wall Street lawyers Allen Dulles (Sullivan and Cromwell), John J McCloy (Milbank Tweed) and the Wall Street banker turned politician C. Douglas Dillon (Dillon Reed) amongst others.
Note lawyers and bankers operate for clients and the key question was who were their clients?
The other link is to an article “Profits über Alles! American Corporations and Hitler” by Dr. Jacques Pauwels discussing the links between American corporations, bankers and lawyers and the Nazi state. It is starting to disappear down the memory hole
“As for the Focke-Wulfs and other fast German fighter planes, they could not have achieved their deadly speed without a component in their fuel known as synthetic tetraethyl; the Germans themselves later admitted that without tetraethyl the entire Blitzkrieg concept of warfare would have been unthinkable.
This magic ingredient was produced by an enterprise named Ethyl GmbH, a daughter firm of a trio formed by Standard Oil, Standard’s German partner IG Farben, and GM”
“The American share of Germany’s imports of vitally important oil for engine lubrication (Motorenöl) increased rapidly, from 44 per cent in July 1941 to 94 per cent in September 1941. Without US-supplied fuel, the German attack on the Soviet Union would not have been possible, according to the German historian Tobias Jersak, an authority in the field of American ‘fuel for the Führer'”
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
Finally, in Europe the politicians do not care about their voters because they are appointed/blackmailed/bribed and controlled by the cabal in Washington. The Brexit referendum was fixed using postal votes as was the latest British general election. The evidence is there if you correlate postal voting by constituency and the results.
The people we all think are in control, such as Soros, are simply cutouts for the black money operations of the intelligence community who have always answered to the oil companies. Think about America’s Middle East policies – what did they do – take oil from Iraq, Libya and Iran off the market thus raising the price of oil. Cui bono?
Finally, if you want to understand why we have so many idiots in charge take a look at Parkinson’s Law by C Northcote Parkinson. He wrote about bureaucracy in a failing British Empire, the American Empire has now reached the same stage.
So good to hear some analysis that goes beyond current narratives. We do live in interesting times. Thank you very much Tom.
Davos doesnt want US vs Russia. Euro elite are terrified of war fallout. Extremely weak. (refugees/inflation/criminals from Ukraine etc)
Crooke made exactly the same point about over using data as Gonzalo Lira made about McNamara’s folly of thinking if only they have enough data they can win. Here’s a a link to an article –
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/10/the-computer-that-predicted-the-us-would-win-the-vietnam-war/542046/
HI Tom,
Well done you and Alistair Crooke. I’ve been on an internet hunt for three weeks to get some of the deeper motivations underlying Russia’s position, and this was stunningly good and by far the best I’ve heard.
I have, since the start of this war, seen it very much as a consequence of NATO expansion. After the end of the Cold War, I was involved in the Russia-UK-US (RUKUS) initiative, part of Partnership For Peace, and it was such a relief to be working with the ships that we had for so long trained to fight against. What I fail to understand, to this day, is why Russia was not invited into NATO.
That said, having been the second in command of Standing NATO Force Mediterranean (SNFM), the organisation is no great shakes – for us, NATO stood for No Ability To Organise, and SNFM for Situation Normal F*****g Mystery. So the only question in my mind now is was the marching up of NATO to Russia’s borders, ignoring Putin’s many messages and signals to us, to do with sheer strategic incompetence (probable) or a part of an ill-judged deep state plan (possible).
From the outset, I felt that Putin had limited objectives: secure Crimea & Eastern Provinces; put pressure on Kiev for political leverage; write down Ukrainian armed forces; get West and NATO to finally wake up, and understand that his stated red line was a red line. But its so helpful to have the deeper context.
The only thing missing from your discussion is energy, and let me know if you’d like to talk more as its my day job. Putin has a PhD in Energy Economics, and I strongly suspect that he feels that time is on his side, and that he can take as long as he needs to achieve his objectives. As global oil & gas (and thus food) prices rise, especially if the war leads to the third oil-shock, it will have a boa-constrictor impact on Western economies and a boomerang back into their domestic politics. Whilst he can sit secure in the knowledge that the Russian people’s energy and food prices won’t change at all – because, unlike all the Western countries (including the US who is a net oil importer), he and they are energy and food independent. Game, Set and Match.
Steve