For nearly four years now I’ve struggled with putting my finger on why so many Star Wars fans hate Rian Johnson’s Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. For me it is one of the very best the franchise has ever produced because of its willingness to challenge our assumptions about how the mythology in Star Wars actually works.
I know many out there feel very differently. And that’s fine, as long as you are honest about why you feel that way.
And that mythology is an important thing to challenge in a time where the Myth of America is fading. The Myth of Democracy, Socialism, Equality are failing. Gender Roles and and all other societal norms are under assault. In fact, challenging dogma and narratives is what this blog and all of my content is geared towards, even if I don’t get things right all the time.
No one does. Everyone fails. Even our childhood heroes.
And I know that is difficult, if not downright disturbing, to deal with. But, we’re all going through it, even the people making these movies.
Look at the radical shift in traditional American conservatives since the 2020 election. They’ve lost something vital, something which had previously animated them; their belief that the institutions of America were redeemable. We didn’t want to believe our courts, our votes were beyond contempt; that our leaders were more than just cowards and traitors. That when it came to a national election for President, no one would be brazen enough to systemically cheat enough to change the outcome of it.
Don’t believe me? A simple twitter thread became the biggest news story in the U.S. over the past two days.
You know the one.
But back to The Last Jedi. It is the exploration and inquisition of our reactions to events/movies/art that matters. Without intense examination of our own motivations and our own reactions to things there can be no growth.
The Last Jedi, like Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice provoked people to visceral, all-consuming anger in a portion of their respective fanbases. These stories are our modern mythologies.
You can dismiss that as the rantings of half-formed man-children or you can show a little empathy and realize that they, like those that have had their illusions ripped from them by the election, are reflecting a part of the same anxiety and fear of the future that exists all across the political divide, in all of us.
In many ways having Batman murder bad guys is akin to Jesus rising again with an AK-47 and mowing down the Pharisees. These characters and stories are that important to them, even if they are derivatives of the more abiding, universal texts.
That said, while I’m happy to engage that anger I’m not sympathetic to those still holding onto it after four freaking years. There comes a point where you have to face that thing you reject: that person, movie, poem, etc., go into its cave and overcome it.
Otherwise, did you not actually listen to the stories you thought you loved so much?
After a long time of dealing with this, privately taking more than ten thousand words of notes on this subject, I finally just put them all together into one place. One measured monologue.
Because what’s the point of pointing out all of the things wrong with the world if I don’t also try to equip you with the tools you need to face what it’s going to throw at you? This isn’t about The Last Jedi or Man of Steel. It’s about all of us, all the time, having to do the hard work of self-examination to build a version of ourselves capable of withstanding the pressures of the day.
That Batman so many hated watching on screen in BvS, the one obsessed with murdering Superman, is the end game of toxic fan culture. He’s fully objectified his target… “You were never a god…. you weren’t even a man,” he growls at Clark in rage. The same thing happened to Zack Snyder. Only empathy brings him back. His daughter committing suicide brought many back from the brink.
Well, today, only empathy with people like Rian Johnson and Lucasfilm CEO Kathleen Kennedy can bring many Star Wars fans back from their anger. And if you can do this with something as innocuous as a movie franchise then you can maybe begin to do it in your real life as well.
Because, the flip side to that is even more true. If you can’t ever forgive the sin of The Last Jedi then how can you ever forgive something or someone even more important to you?
This is the essence of storytelling. This is why we create stories. Why we tell them to each other. It’s why the Bible and other religious texts are the collected wisdom of hundreds of generations of humans. They are practice runs and training manuals for how we deal with each other in real life.
YouTube has empowered an entire sub-culture of MGTOW’s, itself the ultimate expression of male weakness in the face of toxic femininity, to obsess about these things and drive ad revenue to them.
Their hate has made them powerful. They hold sway over a whole rotten sub-culture wallowing in their hate.
And I believe very strongly they have been helped along by those very people intent on destroying all positive aspects of culture and community. Maybe that’s a little too tin foil hat for you.
But how else do you account for the theatrical cut of BvS? A cut designed to make the movie and its hero, Superman, as unlikeable and unwatchable as possible?
If you want proof many executives in Hollywood hate us, I give you that cut and Joss Whedon’s abortion of Justice League as living proof. There was something willful at play there.
Star Wars, as much as you personally may dismiss is as silly, was and is important to millions of people. And if you were someone trying to destroy a culture wouldn’t you help something so important to entire generations of Americans as Star Wars to destroy itself? Wouldn’t you encourage the fans to fight among themselves, to nurture that anxiety in the real world spilling into their ‘safe space?’
It’s not like we haven’t seen this playbook before either.
I know that those same commies worked really hard to separate my generation from the religion of our parents. Star Wars came out at the exact right time in 1977 to have the biggest possible cultural impact it could. And the brunt of that impact, because of the malaise of that decade where myths about America first started failing rapidly, was felt most strongly in my generation of American boys.
So, doesn’t it only makes sense for them to destroy Star Wars, or even better, encourage it to destroy itself rather than let it thrive during the apotheosis of Great Reset?
Or are Millennial soy-boys going to try and tell me today’s communists are okay with Christianity now?
I believe this is true because it is these men they are trying so hard to bankrupt, marginalize, discourage and prevent from having any voice or political power in society today. That’s why they hated Trump so much. They knew the power of our resolve. That’s why he had to go and that’s why they had to do it in the most dishonest and discouraging way imaginable.
And The Last Jedi gave us a Luke Skywalker that saw this coming and hid from it only to come back out and become an even bigger legend than ever before by saying he was sorry and admitting his failure.
The sad truth is that all that is good, precious and dear to us is under assault by people who are committed to depravity and control. We do ourselves zero favors thinking of people as enemies those who we share a common love but different opinions about. We can only repair this breaking world if we realize that. Otherwise, the suffering will only continue.
If we can get back to that empathy with those we disagree with, then maybe, just maybe, Star Wars, like the Myth of America, will have validated itself as something still worth considering.
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The U.S. government has sucked a donkey dick since Wilson. Harveywood finally grew a pair and showed their true colors as the Zionist finally took complete control in the 60s/70s. Star Wars is nothing more then a pipe dream within the requisite golden shower on America by an all-seeing-eye ruling class. Only problem is some of have umbrellas.
That’s all I ask. This article and the video are for those inconsolably angry at that movie for reasons which are simply not true but triggered something else deeper and more dangerous if left unexamined
I’ll have to watch last Jedi again. Perhaps I’ll still disagree, but it would refresh some context to your opinion. I never really paid attention to the franchise after the prequels.
After the first prequel, I lost interest in Star Wars. Tom’s entire analogy was lost on me. The same with the fantasy comics. Batman might have said something profound, but I was too bored to hear it. Was I supposed to be angry about Star Wars sequels?
I’ll have to watch Star Wars VIII so I can understand this post.
I have many friends and family who have swallowed the lies and are now paid-up members of the globalist/COVID/progressive cult. Beyond reasoning.
I could easily hold them in contempt, and allow hate to fester.
Instead, I choose to think of them as suffering from PTSD – they have been indoctrinated with fear and anxiety by people who wish to use them as stormtroopers against us.
That enables me to not see them as swine, but also not to cast my pearls before them.
I’ve given up trying to reason with a number of loved ones. They are smart, high IQ people. But irrational fear seems to have driven out the capacity to objectively discuss evidence and apply logic.
Hoping the mask of the SJWs drops before its too late….
And it’s why I wanted to make this point about the SW Films. It’s time to put aside all of the hatred and the fear over what you think may or may not have happened at LF during the creation of these movies.
It’s time to assess the story as presented not the one you think is going on behind the scenes. If you don’t give people a chance to make amends then how can they ever join you in rebuilding the world?
That’s the story of Ep VII-IX… that’s the essence of SW, but somehow it’s all become twisted up with small-minded and hard-hearted men who can’t get past Holdo’s purple fucking hair FFS!
I think most SJWs really believe the story. They have been duped.
Most globalists don’t – they know it’s just social engineering designed to put them in charge.
Tom believes they will fail to manufacture our consent for their Great Reset and implores us to prepare for the rebuilding process once the curtain is drawn back and they are revealed as impotent clowns.
I believe they will not fail, and a significant event is imminent that will result in humanity begging globalists for their Great Reset.
Tom thinks this is the trench run from New Hope, and I think It’s A Trap.
So either I’m C3PO (“the odds of surviving a frontal assault on the Death Star etc etc”) or Tom is Admiral Ackbar.
Fair, Ivor. I also happen to look at what capital is telling me and the moves it’s making and see a pattern which supports this conclusion. Though, it is easy to get distracted by the headlines and the manufactured narrative and see something different. Don’t get me wrong, Ivor, I’m worried I’m wrong as you should be encouraged by the idea that you are as well.
Everything is cyclic and this looks like a peak to me. Schwab has gathered his resources well, he’s put his plans together but it still has to survive contact with the enemy, and many of those enemies are as psychotic and ruthless as he is.
In the end, all cartels fail because they are uneconomic and eventually work against the interests of too many members. The Davos Crowd is just a cartel of old money and influence. There are plenty of ideologically-driven pieces in place who won’t stop even in the face of Armageddon, but we’ve seen time and again when pushed to the brink, they fold because they are ultimately weak.
I’m hoping you’re right, and you’re hoping I’m wrong.
Of course the questions of motivated reasoning and normalcy bias need to be asked. I’m predicting something very strange, that will make all our lives terrible. And you’re predicting something more prosaic, that will not.
If one of us is tickling ears………….
We’ll know soon – they can’t squander this momentum.
P.S – As I’ve said before, the globalist plan is something like global technocommunism, and seats at the top table will be offered to Putin and Xi. You think they’ll reject that offer, and I don’t.
This age with the information gathering is one of the cornerstones leading to so much anxiety among us.
We must all keep the lines of communication open. Most especially with our kids. It’s our best hope.
The opposite of love isn’t hate, rather it’s apathy and that’s the camp I’m in.
I gave Episode VII two tries; once each in the theatre & at home. Neither drew me in much. When the time came for Episode VIII, the scuttlebutt was quite negative, so I waited until the DVD release. I didn’t make it past the 30 minute mark and bailed altogether not even borrowing Episode IX ftom the library.
I readily admit that Episode III was the crescendo for me because it had more light saber dueling and tied up most of the loose ends.
Maybe IF things settle down culturally & politically in the US, the third time will be the charm. Further, giving my money to the vandals who wish to destroy all that is good in this country along with the bad, doesn’t comport with my thoughts about the best way forward.
Apathy is fine. If the story didn’t grab you it didn’t grab you. The visceral anger is something else, something unexamined. And it’s led a lot of young men into a very dark place
The thing is, even if you ignore the culture war and whatever part the Disney Sequel Trilogy may play in it … these are just badly made films!
That is the bottom line, they are just bad films!
I am not an American, I do not need to have any political opinions to recognize that … maybe it is even easier for me to do so since I am an “outsider”.
Valtyr, you see I disagree. I’ve enjoyed them immensely and continue to enjoy them on rewatching
The prequel films are the ones that have aged very badly.
But I’m not going to debate opinion. Because, technically these films are very well made.
After ingesting the Red Pill in 2014, movies & pop culture as a whole just haven’t been the same for me. I could barely get thru Force Awakens w/o walking out, I was so bored & disgusted; and I’ve refused to watch any new Star Wars since. Such shitty stale story telling-replace all the male’s w/females, BetaMax the remaining males, and recycle the scripts & planets of Episodes IV-VI. Are you familiar w/Rollo Tommassi & his Rational Male blog? He’s written many posts about how Feminists & Hollywood are out of ideas & wish to rewrite the past & erase or BetaMax any Strong Alpha Male characters from the past. Remember the horrible Mad Max-Fury Road horseshit? Mad Max strapped in a crucifix for over half the moviewhile having his bodily fluids sucked out. I dare any Hollywood director to try & remake that movie & reversing the Max-Furiouso characters & genders. As a psych-nurse I did enjoy BvS; but the last movie I’ve attended was Black Panther, and only because I had a hot date! I hated it but did enjoy the dancing & fighting. I like sex & violence what can I say! Honestly though, I’d rather not give much any commie pop culture my time $$$ or attention at this point. Thought provoking as always big Tom thanks!
I agree…Ignore it all…focus on friends and family…let it all crumble from neglect…then from the ashes build back honestly, industriously (not ambitiously), and distributed…good luck everyone.
Only the few sovereigntist libertarians stand against the very idea of machine…crony corporate capitalists, socialists, bowed up police\militarists, and even prosperity gospelists support the machine…masters want us to fight each other…instead we must all fight the machine.
PS-has anyone else noticed how similar Marvel & Star Wars movies look effects-wise now? Considering both properties are owned by Woke Disney Corp it’s not surprising. I’m actually quite amused that Disney’s fucked off the Star Wars property to the point it’s only Stream or Cable worthy now. I happily anticipate the day the Woke Marvel movies suffer the same fate!
I’ve been phasing out my theater involvement in Marvel for years. Now it’s a stream on a lazy Sunday months after the theatrical release. Just ain’t worth the fuss given the downward trending content quality (for me).
Maybe we just didn’t want politics and social commentary in our Star Wars movies?
The world is awash in political punditry. If i wanted more, I’d open any “news” source.
I certainly wouldn’t orient my sociopolitical compass based on what a team of semi-educated, “wokester” script writers think. Their politics are not my politics. No script writer’s politics have ever represented the full scope of American politics.
Once you inject politics into a film, you are by definition going to turn off a giant chunk of the political spectrum.
Anyway — You’re making a lot of incorrect assumptions about why true fans hated Episode 8. (And 6 and 7 for that matter). It’s a straw man approach to punditry: Erect a strawman representation of the opposing viewpoint, and knock it down with your superior position.
Nope. This piece sucked. Enough for me to un-bookmark you.
Stick to politics and geopol for a while and I’ll come back. This piece didn’t just suck. It undoubtedly pissed off a lot of readers.
Get woke, go broke.
I can understand that.. but how long have you been watching Star Wars and not realize it was always intensely political?
To deny the politics of Star Wars is to deny the story itself. If you really look at the sequels fairly you’ll see that they pushed the politics to the back burner similarly to what Lucas did in the OT.
Maybe, just maybe, you saw political statements in these films because you were looking for them when they weren’t really there? Maybe you were assuming a threat in them that you can’t let go of for all the reasons I talked about in the article and the video.
Honestly, comments like this prove my point that many went in to these films looking for a fight and got one.
I’m not making any assumptions as to why you in particular didn’t like these films. I asked quite honestly to assess your own motivations as to why and really look at them.
If your answer is a flip “Get woke, go broke” or “I don’t want politics in MY Star Wars.” My straw man looks awfully accurate and you just proved it in public.
This article, about an innocuous subject, triggered you to unbookmark me. That’s fine. For everyone else still listening… can you see my point now?
Because it doesn’t get any clearer than this comment….
It’s been all downhill since Episode V’s closing credits. The rest aren’t terribly unwatchable, but there are distracting elements that disappoint and cause some cringe. Ewoks, Jar Jar, the recent wokism, Kyro Ren (seemed more aptly placed in Space Balls to me), etcetera. It was pretty much inevitable.
You first happen upon nearly pure art that is transcendant. But given our mass culture and the financial incentives, you then want to catch lightning in a bottle and leverage it recursively. The art and the story were bound to take a back seat. It’s pretty much structurally built in.
Most of us are quite limited by the external restraints of society, even movie creators. There’s not really any blame to be laid. They probably had far less wiggle room than we realize. I mean no one likes to face the consequences from their superiors (and the market) for totally fucking up. Success for these people was defined financially, not artistically or morally. (There aren’t many with the pure vision and devotion to their craft as a Van Gogh in this world…and he suffered greatly. Most aren’t willing to endure this.)
Better to stick with books if you want great stories. And when you witness transcendence, be grateful…it probably won’t last. If you’re expecting more, it will probably disappear even quicker.
As an aside…my biggest beef with the sequels is that I didn’t really feel the story progressed. Zero chances were taken, so I was left feeling rather flat (although not angry per se). It was more of a cut and paste rehash of all the highlights of the prior content with a bit of a new Skywalker narrative awkwardly interwoven in an un compelling way.
Bottom line: to look for visionary work with galvanizing and resonant modern day mythology from today’s big tech, big media, big finance mainstream culture might be a decent new definition of insanity. :)
Is this the face of a man you are terrified of?….
Maybe Disney is just trolling.
So on Tom’s recommendation (was it a recommendation? Sort of?), I watched episode 8. As he points out in another comment, all the Star Wars movies have political undertones… as does almost every movie (and book) in history.
But some stories are written in a clever way. A female hero is part of the story. She does whatever heroic things, and she just happens to be female. A lot of Walt Disney (the man not the corporation) era films ironically fall into this – despite Walt being “pre-woke”.
The Bob Iger Disney crap is targeted at dimwit millennials. Millennials were indoctrinated in school. They seemingly had to recite party songs each morning. They simply don’t grasp subtle innuendo or undertone. They need their messages to be delivered as a 2×4 to the head. People who think for themselves find this message delivery tactic offensive.
Characters like Ren were written by Iger’s propaganda committee to be woke female first, and only if possible maybe to fit into the story second. So her presence comes across as jarring and out of place. Iger’s forced woke-ism distracts and detracts from the story line.
Princess Leia is a hero who happens to be female. The character compliments the story. Ren is a political tool forced into a story line like a square peg into a round hole. More attention was given to external politics than to the story.
Entertainment always has some undertones, but there is a big difference between well made films/books that just make you think and question what you have been told with subtle references… versus the very offensive in-your-face propaganda targeted at morons with overpriced college paper.
The special effects were good. The CGI has come a long way. But good CGI doesn’t make up for very forced characters and overtly political monologues. The CGI team did a great job, the studio execs wrecked the movie.
Tom seems to be making reference to the underlying story, buried beneath the forced woke-ism. I had to really work to see past the Iger politics and get to the story, perhaps others did too? It’s there, but it’s work. And entertainment isn’t supposed to be work.
I’m glad you have it another go. Thank you for that. Now try watching Ep IX again and see if Rey’s whole ‘woke feminist’ hero schtick that you’ve identified survives that story. Because I sure don’t. I see that entire persona collapse during the fight on the ruins of the Death Star on Endor.
And yes, some entertainment is meant to be work. All of Rian Johnson’s films are work, James.
I don’t sit down to watch a Kubrick movie and not expect to have to ‘do some work.’
The best art and entertainment are meant to be hard. Remember, I started out a poet in college…. this stuff is very real to me.
I meant no offense to you or your inner poet. Perhaps I shouldn’t have called it “work” to watch…
I was a quantitative major, but I took one intro to film course. That makes me at least 100 credits shy of competence. I do remember the importance of “suspension of disbelief” to movies.
If you spend one second thinking about it, everything James Bond does is patently absurd. If you think about it, the whole Star Wars universe is made up and none of it exists. But for an hour and a half give or take, movie goers suspend their disbelief— if a story is well told.
Now imagine the Bond franchise tries to convince you that Denise Richards is a nuclear particle expert. Yes, many of the women in Bond films are eye candy. Some of them (I would argue all of the better ones) manage to pull off some smarts at the same time. Eva Green was both eye candy and smart, as one example. But Denise Richards? A nuclear scientist? There aren’t enough hallucinagens in the universe for that. It jars movie goers, knocking them out of their suspension of disbelief…
Politically correct characters that are shoe horned into a story line, like Ren, jar viewers out of suspension of disbelief. Suddenly we remember the screen is filled with action figure toys. There is no such thing as light sabers. For the hour and a half run time, we aren’t supposed to remember that. We are supposed to be caught up in the story. It was work to stay involved.
I know “2001 Space Oddesey” is make believe, but I didn’t have to work to believe during the 1.5 hours I was watching. It wasn’t work in that sense. Kubrick is entertaining while you watch, and it makes you think afterward.
Iger Disney (not just Star Wars) is poor quality propaganda while you watch. Unless Tom Luongo or someone else specifically draws attention to the fable underneath, it gets lost in the propaganda. The politics gets in the way of “suspension of disbelief”.
Yeah, I’m probably talking way above my film 101 pay grade.
I get that… .and for me these stories are very well told, just not the story you thought you were watching. All of the Star Wars films are ridiculous and my suspension of disbelief never wavered while watching them.
We live in a time where the politics dominates everything we do… and that’s the mistake we’re all making. Stop that and watch them with an open heart. Life is too fucking short to turn everything into this. Rey’s story is the story of the modern, unfulfilled feminist. And she fails miserably until she finally SUBMITS to that which she can’t control.
One last thing, which I didn’t mention before in my first reply. What if you are right and Iger/KK intended for this to be a cheap piece of propaganda and the filmmakers subverted that?
Did you ever consider that? Because from where I’m sitting that’s what I’m seeing. Every time I watch them my read of them gets stronger not weaker. And I’ve watched them a lot, because they are telling us the story we need to hear… Men need to step up and lead. Women need to realize they need men.
Balance between the sexes must be restored if society is going to survive.
Poor quality propaganda is the Marvel films having sympathy for a moron like Thanos, a pure Malthusian (nee communist) whose entire plan is moronic. It’s pure agitprop to get us to be okay with wiping out half of humanity.
That is most definitely NOT what the Sequel SW films are saying…. not at all.
Regardless, thank you again for engaging and trying to see my side of it. That’s honestly all I was asking for.
With all due respect and I mean this sincerely, you are way off on the issues with the last 3 Star Wars movies and the Han Solo movie.
Kathleen Kennedy purposely set out to destroy the canon of the original 3 movies, and particularly the legend/persona/morals of Luke Skywalker and the rugged individualistic bravado of Han Solo. Kathleen Kennedy is a militant woke feminist ideologue. And a horrible producer to boot…
The last 3 movies progressively (no pun intended) and purposely broke down and rebuilt Star Wars in to militant anti-white Christian male wokeness.
Bill Whittle explains it best in this video discussion with Scott Ott.
I cannot encourage you enough to watch the 21 minutes of this video. Bill Whittle nails it in my no shit honest opinion. And the points he makes are EXACTLY the reason I didn’t go see episodes 8 and 9…and this video came out around the release of episode 9. I picked up on what Bill identifies during The Force Awakens and it was further reinforced in the Han Solo movie. I see the same in all the Marvel movies and most everything else that comes out of that shit-stain known as Hollywood…
If you want more proof of this…just look at the ridiculous panic attack reviews by lefties of The Tomorrow War with Chris Pratt on Amazon Prime video.
They aren’t freaking out because the effects were bad or the acting was bad or the premise was stupid… No… they are losing their woke collectivists minds because the main character is a strong white male who is intelligent, educated, fearless, and resourceful who loves his family and wants to save his daughter from her future death. And his daughter ends up being the true strong hero in the future who follows in her father’s footsteps. She is the powerful, strong, smart
female character as she should be portrayed, not some woke man-hating screeching militant feminazi as we see in other Hollywood shit movies… And again they freaked out about A Quiet Place and A Quiet Place 2…because the dad is a white strong leading character and the mother is a strong leading character who puts her life on the line to save her kids multiple times.
I understand all of these issues TS, I do. But while KK and Bob Iger may have intended to do violence to the original SW mythos (not a position I share but am willing to consider) the text of the story their filmmakers wrote and produced says something completely different.
And I am more than willing to go to the mat on this. I’ve been looking at this from a Jungian perspective and with them hiring Chris Terrio as screenwriter for Ep IX, the guy who wrote both BvS and Snyder’s Justice League, both extremely ‘conservative’ and ‘Christian’ stories I’d argue the final product is one one which subverted that initial impulse you described.
I loved A Quiet Place. Haven’t seen the sequel, yet. The Tomorrow War was a great story about family and was obviously sold to Amazon as “Global Warming Nearly Killed Humanity” … how else do you explain that 3rd act? The aliens woke up after the ice sheets retreated and nearly wiped out humanity….
C’mon man. Stuff like this happens all the time. And I think once you get past the surface aspects of the Sequels and look deeply at the symbolism, image system and actual text of the story you’ll see what I’m seeing.
Rey’s ultra feminist schtick puts her on a path to extinction. She stabs the man she’s linked to (Ren) with his lightsaber FFS and then realizes what she’s become.
So much of the hate she gets is over not seeing the whole story play out, as opposed to reacting in real time to what you think the story actually is.
No different than Batman fans hating Snyder’s Batman in BvS, mistaking his murdering people as condoning Batman’s behavior as opposed to bringing him to the brink of the ultimate evil and rejecting it, just like Rey rejects Palpatine’s call to power.
IF this was a feminist story, she would have taken the throne, killed Gucci Palpy and ended the war with a wave of her hand.
Instead she stood firm with Ben at her side and submitted to the will of the force. For that she was rewarded with grace, a communion with the Jedi and a resurrection by Ben, the coming together of the male and female in balance for a few moments.
Watch the movies, ignore the external politics of the day. You’ll see what I’m seeing. My completely non-woke, conservative daughter did and she loves them for it.
Then we’ll respectfully agree to disagree.
I’m happy for you in that you found the movies enjoyable.
For me, I want to be entertained by a great story with epic characters portrayed by great actors.
I could watch the LOTR Trilogy director’s cut damned near every day. I could watch Saving Private Ryan over and over again. Same for Shawshank Redemption, We Were Soldiers, and the list goes on.
Because they tell great stories and are immensely entertaining.
The MSM and leftists smash wokeness in my face every day so when I go to the movies I don’t want writers/producers/directors doing the same thing in movies that I pay to go see.
Regardless of the story line in Star Wars 7-8-9 the people behind them shoved wokeness into the movies when they shouldn’t have. It ruined any entertainment value for me because I was fully aware of what they were doing…
And for that, and many other movies that have done the same thing in recent years I refuse to go spend money on Hollywood shit movies. Unless I hear amazing things from movie reviewers who aren’t woketards I simply have no interest in spending money on woke crap.
I’m on the side of mostly badly made and am waiting for episode n, “The Force Comes Out” featuring a minority gay Jedi with psychological and obesity issues dressed in drag.
I think that was called “The Holiday Special” :)
I sat on the front row of my local movie house on the first day that Star Wars was released in 1977. I’d already purchased the movie soundtrack album prior and knew what was happening, where in the story I was supposed to be, simply by the music. Ah…. simpler times.
But let’s jet to the present and be brutally honest here. What we are talking about is getting upset over fictional characters in a fantasy land. Let’s grow up shall we! To be so incensed over what amounts to a whole lot of nothing is what sets my head to spinning. Remember… I.was there for every one of the first three on day one… because its all so childish.
I have no sympathy for the devils who rewrite canon because they know full damn well what they’re doing. They deserve no respect,, love, or quarter. There is an evil hand at play. And let’s not kid ourselves… what’s being tinkled into our eyes is not in any way rain.
There is a time for anger… even a place… and there are far more vexing matters to fight over. This movie matter is only a slice of the evil pie they’re foisting upon us.
What grabbed me was your comment above about Schwab’s plan not yet meeting the enemy! I have thought about that a lot before you mentioned it! I keep thinking there are a group of enemy’s each a contingent of their own that want to own the world and have us be their Serfs. I hope there are better options because Schuabee is a dip wod that could not win a dog fight with a golf club.
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