Author Richard Poe returns to the podcast after too long a hiatus to help give us an historical accounting of the influence of British trade and foreign policy on the evolution of the United States and how it has led us to the moment we are in today.
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Episode #170 – Brent Johnson and the TINA Effect of the US Dollar
Podcast Episode #169 – Alastair Crooke and the Existential Crises in the Middle East
Podcast Episode #168 – Peter Quinones and the Plight of Being Post-Libertarian
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Amazing pod cast!
thank you!
I feel like alot of dots connected for me after this. To be honest, at one point in the interview I was getting annoyed at Mr Poe’s reluctance to think outside the box on the possibility of the end of the current version of the Roman Empire but when you brought Ukraine on and he pivoted to Sitting Bull I could see he get’s it. Great job. Gonna be hard to top this one Mr Tom!
Great interview. I was getting annoyed with Poe’s reluctance to embrace alternate ‘possibilities’ but you sprung him with Ukraine. Sitting Bull made a big impact on him!
Thank you. Richard wants to believe things are improving, and that makes him a great guest to bat ideas around with
if this apparent debilitation of the British Crown along with certain other Davosian families is a psyop, maybe there’s another interpretation — that it’s a ploy to reframe and remove themselves from the global antagonism in order to (per your theory) survive in the world war they’re attempting to instigate the strategy is not unlike what happened in the last world war.
Thank you for the podcast. Some good points and I learned a lot about The War Between The States—the role of the Imperial Russian Navy was fascinating. However, the idea that the US elite serve and make policy to serve British interests—I don’t think he presents much evidence for that. He does cite, accurately I am sure, old documents which set forth a plan for that. But there have been countless plans and proposals throughout history. Is there any evidence for that happening currently? In addition, I really cannot see our dominant and power hungry political, military, and elite caste bowing the knee voluntarily to a country which is declining even faster than we are economically and militarilly. Also, I think he dismisses too easily the question of Israel’s power over our poitical system. If you read Meirsheimer’s book about the influence of the Jewish lobby on our political system—Well, I can think of billions of pieces of evidence (dollars) and also thousands (weapons) and also political (risking the isolation of the US and the loss of influence in a critical region—all to support Israel) which support a grossly outsized influence by Israel. (Sorry for the length. I need to go to bed.)
Hi pmitchell1998,
That is a really great comment!
I think the best way to visualize what Richard Poe is talking about is by observing what is currently happening with Boeing Corporation as it describes the same process:
Boeing’s Tragedy: The Fall of an American Icon
“Lacking the resources to embark on new product development, merging with Boeing was McDonnell Douglas’ way to exit the industry.”
“However, while the firm’s name was retired, the McDonnell Douglas’ management team did not leave quietly. “
“In fact, as we have observed first-hand in other mergers — for instance, Solvay and Rhodia in Europe or, much earlier, Glaxo and Wellcome — the tougher, leaner managers of the weaker company elbowed out the more gentlemanly leaders of the bigger company.”
“The result was that Boeing’s idealistic engineers ended up being run by McDonnell Douglas hard-bitten veterans.”
https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/02/07/boeings-tragedy-the-fall-of-an-american-icon
Like Boeing, the British Empire lacked resources and merged with the United States to create the current Anglosphere. While the original authors of the merger are long gone, the ethos they imparted is still with us. It would be awkward to say that the “Boeing executives are bowing the knee voluntarily to a company (McDonnell Douglas) which declined and was sold off” …but that is one way of seeing it.
Before the UK-US merger was the Dutch Republic-UK merger, known as the Glorious Revolution. If you can see through the smoke, it was essentially a financial takeover, with the Dutch Republic being discarded:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution#The_decline_of_the_Dutch_Republic
In 1900, before America emerged as the next “host”, the talk/angst was about the British Empire serving Dutch/German interests over British interests (eg: the British monarchy changed its name from “Saxe-Coburg and Gotha” to Windsor and Kaiser Wilhelm II went into exile in the Netherlands) due to its origination.
One thread that runs through all of this history is “democracy”. Aristotle pointed out that all democracies eventually devolve to oligarchies because of their susceptibility to corruption. Thus, the transfer went from the: Dutch Republic -> British Empire (where the King was reduced to a figurehead under Parliament) -> American Republic, with each transition increasing the power of the oligarchy. One of the themes of US foreign policy is “democracy promotion” for this reason, as democracies can be easily bent to the will of the Anglosphere through media manipulation and NGO sponsored “color revolutions”, etc.
There is a great article in RT called “Death of empires: History tells us what will follow the collapse of US hegemony” that connects all the dots far better than I can. IMHO
I hope that helps…
Wow. great and informative comment. I learned a lot. ‘Plans within plans’ Thank you VERY much. This community, as Tom says, really is quite sharp. I will read the article you mentioned.
Just sincere thanks for the heads up you two gave me; I have reached the end of an eye opening read of The Great Game, On Secret Service in High Asia. A delightful and eye opening read that puts so much of what I see today into perspective. The US is an outgrowth of Britain; same brain, different body.
Hi Tom,
Here is an article that synthesizes Richard Poe’s “Anglo-Americans”, Michael Hudson’s “financialization” and Martin Armstrong’s “cycles” quite elegantly and without much contradiction:
Death of Empires: History tells us what will follow the collapse of US hegemony
“Occupying a central place in his theory is the notion that the cycle of rise and fall of each successive hegemon terminates in a crisis of financialization. It is this phase of financialization that facilitates the shift to the next hegemon.”
“Arrighi dates the origin of this cyclical process to the Italian city-states of the 14th century, an era that he calls the birth of the modern world. From the marriage of Genoese capital and Spanish power that produced the great discoveries, he traces this path through Amsterdam, London and, finally, the United States.”
“Essentially, the ascending power emerges in part by availing itself of the financial resources of the financialized and declining power.”
https://www.rt.com/business/594432-financialization-death-empires/
I thought it might be of interest to your readers here.
Great podcast with Richard !!!